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Re : Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #25 le: 09 mai 2012 à 01:59:42 »
After discuss with QQ, he said me to add models which are copy in the same list.


It's cheating!!  :o
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Re : Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #26 le: 09 mai 2012 à 09:57:35 »

125 models ! Enjoy !

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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #27 le: 09 mai 2012 à 14:02:33 »
Ok here how i count the max models total :

I'll take Schlaf 3-50 points lists as an example (since i don't own twice the same model, my lists aren't suited well for explaining, courtesy of schalf of course even if i didn't ask ^^)  :

High Executioner Servath Reznik (*6pts)
* Castigator (8pts)
* Crusader (6pts)
* Scourge of Heresy (9pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Daughters of the Flame (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
Exemplar Vengers (Leader and 2 Grunts) (7pts)
Holy Zealots (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
Knight Exemplar Seneschal (3pts)
Reclaimer (2pts)


In this first list i list 34 models.

Grand Scrutator Severius (*6pts)
* Redeemer (6pts)
* Revenger (6pts)
* Vanquisher (8pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Deliverer Sunburst Crew (Leader and 2 Grunts) (3pts)
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
Exemplar Errants (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Flameguard Cleansers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
* Flameguard Cleanser Officer (2pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Reclaimer (2pts)
The Wrack (3 wracks) (1pts)
Vassal Mechanik (1pts)
Vassal of Menoth (2pts)


In the second list, there is 31 new models, we don't count the ones that were in the previous list (Choir, cinerators, reclaimer) so the total for the two lists is 65.

Vice Scrutator Vindictus (*6pts)
* Vigilant (4pts)
* Crusader (6pts)
* Templar (8pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Deliverers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
Holy Zealots (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* Holy Zealot Monolith Bearer (2pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon (3pts)
Reclaimer (2pts)
Vassal Mechanik (1pts)
Vassal of Menoth (2pts)


In this last list, here's how it becomes tricky, new models are Vindictus, vigilant, templar, the second unit of choir because it means that schlaf will bring a second unit of these guys that will be on the table with the first one, deliverers, the monolith bearer (but not the unit of zealots which already appeared in list 1, if you have a 6 models unit which becomes a 10 models unit in another list, don't forget to count the 4 new guys) and Vilmon.
So that there is 15 new models which brings the amount of models to 80 models (i hope i didn't make any maths mistakes...)

I hope you'll get the idea ! You can do this on your 6 lists and chaeck taht your total is ok. But remember that you made it, and don't forget to show your pride the 26, 27th !
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #28 le: 09 mai 2012 à 14:10:59 »
And what if he has 2 units of choir painted, but play only 1 in each of its lists ? I suppose in fact that we count all painted miniatures bringed to the event (seems to me it's easier to explain).

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Re : Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #29 le: 09 mai 2012 à 14:22:07 »
And what if he has 2 units of choir painted, but play only 1 in each of its lists ? I suppose in fact that we count all painted miniatures bringed to the event (seems to me it's easier to explain).

for me, you have to count every mini painted and effectively played. should i have 3 complete units of zealot, and 3 lists with one unit of zealot each, i could bring all 30 zealots models and have all of them played once in the tournament.

for the purpose of counting, i just made the list of every mini i own (some of them twice : paladin *2 & choir unit *2 & repenter * 2, that's all) and put them in the lists, making sure i don't forget anyone (except those poor casters who don't get their entrance ticket..)
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #30 le: 09 mai 2012 à 15:22:59 »
OK i get your point, i made this this way for because at first I didn't think of people bringing 2 harrowers that never appear together in the same game, i assumed you'd only take one model for the week-end even if you have two painted.

Second part, some people asked me by PM few days ago how to count, and for instance pickouette told me he has 30 painted kriel warriors that he will play, but only one unit at the time (one unit in 3 lists as in schalf example with zealots), but that it was really hard for him to transport all these minis and, as a troll player, i can understand him ^^. That's why i told them not to bother with logistic issues and not to bring unnecessary models.

So except if you really think it's a real problem, i'll keep this way of counting, but you can still bring more minis than necessary the D day Portal !
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #31 le: 09 mai 2012 à 15:33:47 »
Ok, so we count the minimum minis number necessary to play all the 6 lists.
I will do this and maybe modify my total (a bit lower, I'm afraid).

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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #32 le: 09 mai 2012 à 16:16:58 »
Next challenge, having enough painted mini to field every list without using the same mini twice  ;)




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Re : Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #33 le: 09 mai 2012 à 16:30:30 »
Next challenge, having enough painted mini to field every list without using the same mini twice effectively paint the minis in due time or finally appear as the man who ALMOST made it trough the challenge

corrected...

but i understand your goal. ultimate step : one army box for each list, sealed, after the battle repack and re-seal ; so no unit appearing in every list unless you buy/paint them in multiple samples!
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #34 le: 09 mai 2012 à 18:05:06 »
Q2 : how do you count models that are generated by an in-game effect, like Alexia's skeletons ?

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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #35 le: 09 mai 2012 à 18:43:29 »
Alexia can bring 20 risens on the table. If you have 20 painted risens models count them in the army since all of them can appear during the same game. If you have a fewer number of painted risens, just take this number.

For ealexia's thralls (up to 3 per turn but difficult to estimate how many she can create in a game), just count the number of painted models you can bring.

For incubi on kallus's feat, count the max incubi you can bring, the limit is the number of warrior models you have in kallus army, assuming you have enough incubi.

For my part, i took 5 whelps, even if i don't spam them all in a game i counted 5 models.
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #36 le: 15 mai 2012 à 14:30:50 »
Q2 Challenge accepted, 98 models for me.

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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #37 le: 16 mai 2012 à 11:47:36 »
It seems that players from Besançon have bigger pairs thant elsewhere !

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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #38 le: 17 mai 2012 à 21:32:03 »
OK for the 20 risens.

And for the sea dog crew with a press ganger unit? There's no maximum!
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #39 le: 17 mai 2012 à 22:28:01 »
Read again...  ;D
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #40 le: 19 mai 2012 à 20:12:49 »
Ok Ladies and gents, now that all the lists are published, I made some maths and can now bring you the classement of the gentlemen who accepted this challenge.

To begin i'll start with some stats i've made as I read the lists, Zoro is going to post his own later concerning the details of warcasters/warlocks number of appearance.
My personnal thoughts (only engaging myself) are that I'm a bit disappointed by the redundance of waracasters and the similarity between lists, where is the fun the originality ?
I was expecting to see lots of differents lists and units and 19 players out of 34 play the same lists at 35 and 50 points adding just common regular units at higher points value.
I know some have not that many units painted, but i blame the veterans, it's an open with painting chart and quizz counting in the final ranking, why bring the heaviest and well known cheesy set of lists. I would have be happy if people play it cool, since in august is a real master where you can bring imba and op lists...

But anyway, the play like you have half a dozen is a success !

I'd like to gratz the 4 guys who didn't satisfy the requirements but took 6 different casters : Spiff, PeterO, Starpu and Cush !

And the 11 !!! who made it! (i hope my maths are good, I didn't find an easy way to count lol) :

11 Dragoonvano 70
10 TripleUn 77
9  Q² 84 (I'm a bit ashamed of my performance when I see the others lol)
8  Allan255 86 (I counted 5 incubi maybe you have more with Kallus!)

The real men now ! (over 100 different minis!)

7  Portal 100
6  Fedmahn 104
5  Schlaf 105

The great guys :

4  Pickouette 115 (151 points of non repeated miniatures)
3  Titi 115 (184 points of non repeated miniatures)

The ones who deserve our respect ! :

2  Gwen 126 (203 points of non repeated miniatures)
with a very nice set of lists Bravo!

And the best !

1  Ishkar 126 (210 points of non repeated miniatures)

Hail to you Ishkar, I have to admit I was really impressed by your lists !
Ishkar manages to put every entries available to elves, without playing mercenaries and he allowed himself to play some tier lists in addition !
Congratz to you, you achieve the maximum score and bring all references for the weekend ! You'll deserve this win ! I hope you'll enjoy the prize as mucj as I enjoyed reading your lists.


Well now it is time to see what we're going to do with this messy lists, but i'm sure you'll all do well, I can't wait to see you next week !

Don't forget to have fun !


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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #41 le: 19 mai 2012 à 23:34:57 »
Pfffff I come with 146 different minis, you are all small dick.
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #42 le: 19 mai 2012 à 23:40:01 »
Pfffff I come with 146 different minis, you are all small dick.

Yes but not enough warcasters... you got no balls. :)

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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #43 le: 20 mai 2012 à 02:02:38 »
Yeah ! Great news ! ^^

Thank ya my dear Q² !
Well played all for this contest, hope you'll do the best with...

Anyway, now i've just to finish to paint all this models ^^
See ya next week !

PS : is that normal that Starpu is allowed to have 3/4 "character" models in two lists in the same day ?
Is that because of the contracts ?
Far of my mind to be a "cunt", but I wanna know ^^

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Re : Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #44 le: 20 mai 2012 à 10:42:05 »
2  Gwen 125 (203 points of non repeated miniatures)
1  Ishkar 125 (210 points of non repeated miniatures)

Those guys are so huge...

Congrats to all of you, folks, we've already won the Open before it start.

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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #45 le: 20 mai 2012 à 12:54:22 »
Starpu took 6 different casters, but didn't apply character restriction on both days.

He even use shitty rules adjustments allowed by zoro to play character twice per day lol.
We may call this amendment the Starpu's exception because you're the only one who play all mercenaries (Aod, and Lucifel restrained to dwarf and pirates respectively)
And afterthat you comes to insult us, saying he has 146 models, will they all be painted by you Starpu ^^???
You shoud shush lol, it is to be said that you have no balls just a mouth...

To Ishkar, I hope to play against you Sopalin Boy, I'm sure you'll be pleased too ^^
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #46 le: 20 mai 2012 à 14:28:25 »
He has no balls but a dick, it's called a tail I think... Go bark ! :)

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Re : Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #47 le: 20 mai 2012 à 14:55:50 »

The real men now ! (over 100 different minis!)
5  Schlaf 105

i count 106 "models", or 108 if you count 3 for wracks. but this is accounted from the "collection" functionality of forward kommander, i still have to put everything on the table to be sure.

besides, it is about 172 army points (not counting warcasters). the only duplicates are paladins and repenters, both of them are played in the same army and they are effectively different models.
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #48 le: 20 mai 2012 à 15:54:54 »
I counted 3 for wracks and 2 for Dragoon, but I may have made mistakes sorry.
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Re : Play like you have half a dozen, english thread
« Réponse #49 le: 20 mai 2012 à 17:03:41 »
Citer
I counted 3 for wracks and 2 for Dragoon, but I may have made mistakes sorry.

With that, i have 126 models :p
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