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Les initiates of the wall
cost 7
Shield guard x3
Et arm bonus en b2b passe a +3 cumulatif donc +9 a trois soit arm 24
C'est deja bien plus sexy !!

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Jsuis d'accord les initiates ils leur manquent clairement un truc plus sexy et qui leur donne une place plus spécifiques parce que la leur role est pas claire mais bon a coup de petit changement comme ca on va arriver fin de cid qu'ils vont encore nous faire des figurines qui reste sur l'etagère :p

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Discussions sur le jeu et les rumeurs / Re : lesser warlock minions
« le: 02 novembre 2018 à 00:30:48 »


Photo de la fig je crois

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Discussions sur le jeu et les rumeurs / Equivalant battlegroup
« le: 22 octobre 2018 à 08:10:29 »
Bien le bonjour ayant arreté warmachine pendant un petit moment et voulant mis remettre j'aimerais savoir si certain d'entre vous connaitrez un equivalant a notre bon petit forum battlegroup mais version anglaise ou americaine pour toujours plus de lecture de parti et d'info sur la meta :) merci bien 

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Protectorat de Menoth / Re : Pairing Thyra / Durst
« le: 04 septembre 2018 à 21:48:29 »
Pourquoi pas essayer les listes thyra qui sont sortie au WTC avec des exemplars moi j'ai testé ca et ca tape fort et avec occultations sur les errants avec tough et gravus ca fait une premiere ligne resistante le temps que la force de frappe arrive au cac ca rigole zero

https://conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0E3K3Nm3m07zlM1qlZlS2mbQ2jfV2jfV

Protectorate Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Exemplar Interdiction

[Thyra 1] Thyra, Flame of Sorrow [+29]
 - Blood of Martyrs [16]
 - Fire of Salvation [14]
High Exemplar Gravus [8]
Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord [4]
Scrutator Potentate Severius [0(6)]
 - Dervish [7]
Exemplar Cinerators (max) [13]
 - Exemplar Cinerator Officer [0(5)]
Exemplar Errants (max) [16]
 - Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard [0(4)]
Knights Exemplar [9]
 - Knights Exemplar Officer [4]
Knights Exemplar [9]
 - Knights Exemplar Officer [4]

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Elles sortent quand les figurines des caster 0 (cayne , severius,...) ?

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Minions / Re : Liste dracodile
« le: 28 juin 2018 à 13:21:21 »
J'ai oublié de preciser que jejoue exclusivement des crocodiles

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Minions / Liste dracodile
« le: 28 juin 2018 à 13:02:35 »
Bien le bonjours a vous amis croco je suis a la recherche de listes avec le dracodile si vous en avez qui fonctionne bien je suis preneur merci bien :)

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Week 2

Grand Exemplar Kreoss: After receiving a large quantity of feedback throughout the first week about Kreoss 2. We feel these changes will push Kreoss 2 towards a more exciting and effective game plan. Please continue to focus on these changes and provide feedback for the direction you would like to see Kreoss 2 go.

Gain Tough XICONX.

Cut Tactician [Exemplar].

Gain Life Trader:
Life Trader - When an attack with this weapon hits, this model can suffer 1 damage point to gain an additional die on the damage roll against the model hit. Life Trader can be used only once per attack.
Gain Paragon of the Faith:
Paragon of the Faith - While in this model’s command range, friendly Exemplar models gain Tough XICONX.

Gain Battle-Charged:
Battle-Charged 2 Self Ctrl – UP No
While in the spellcaster’s control range, models in its battlegroup gain Countercharge. (When an enemy model advances and ends its movement within 6˝ of a model with Countercharge and in its LOS, the model with Countercharge can immediately charge it. A model can use Countercharge only once per round and while not engaged.)
Change Sacrosanct to:
Sacrosanct 3 Self * – RND No
When an enemy non-warcaster, non-warlock warrior model destroys one or more friendly Faction models in the spellcaster’s command range with an attack, immediately after the attack is resolved the attacking model becomes knocked down.



Fire of Salvation: A slight point reduction should help the Fire of Salvation compare more favorably to other Protectorate Warjacks.

Cost 15.

Judicator: We feel SPD 5 will greatly help both the Judicator and the Revelator be impactful models. (Yes, this change will be reflected in the Revelator as well)

SPD 5.


Exemplar Bastions: We are looking to change up what is going on between Bastions and Cinerators, so please look at these two changes together. We intend the Bastions to be the slow hard hitting unit of the Exemplar army while Cinerators are the slow durable unit. Bastions are going to bump up in P+S to 13. Changing out Set Defense for Defensive Line will make their +2 DEF a little more relevant, and they pick up a nice conditional anti-knockdown attribute.

Consecrated Halberd POW 6.

Change Set Defense to Defensive Line:
Defensive Line - While this model is B2B with one or more models in its unit, it gains +2 DEF against melee attacks and cannot become knocked down.


Exemplar Cinerators: Cinerators are becoming the slow highly durable unit compared to Bastions slow but hard hitting unit. To compensate for their drop in POW, they are also dropping in points.

Cost 8/13.
Blazing Sword POW 4.

Exemplar Cinerator Officer: The officer is picking up Defensive Formation. This allows the Cinerators a turn of offensive output while remaining in shield wall which should make them a much more exciting choice on the battlefield.

Blazing Sword POW 4.

Change Litany of Fire to Defensive Formation:

Defensive Formation - This model can use Defensive Formation once per game at any time during its unit’s activation. This activation, models in this unit currently in formation gain Reposition [5˝]. Additionally, at the end of this activation any previous orders this unit was issued expire and this unit is affected by the Shield Wall order. (At the end of an activation in which it did not run or fail a charge, a model with Reposition [5˝] can advance up to 5˝, then its activation ends.)


Exemplar Vengers: We do not have the intention to do a massive overhaul on Vengers. We feel (and the feedback shows!) that Vengers are very nearly there. This small bump in stats should help them see a little more inclusion in lists when speed is what the player is looking for.

STR 7.
ARM 18.


Exemplar Bastion Seneschal: The Bastion Seneschal is picking up Tactician [Exemplar] after it was removed from Kreoss. This combined with it's new drive should make it a valuable unit on the battlefield.

Increase Consecrated Halberd POW to 6.

Gain Set Defense:

Set Defense - A model in this model’s front arc suffers –2 on charge, slam power attack, and impact attack rolls against this model.
Gain Tactician [Exemplar]:
Tactician [Exemplar] - While in this model’s command range, friendly Exemplar models can ignore other friendly Exemplar models when determining LOS. Friendly Exemplar models can advance through other friendly Exemplar models in this model’s command range if they have enough movement to move completely past them.


Shrine of the Lawgiver: CMD 12 should help the Shrine continue to gather souls on a turn by turn basis. Well of Souls will help smooth out soul acquisition in the early game.

CMD 12.

Gain Well of Souls:

Well of Souls - This model begins the game with 3 soul tokens.

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Il y a la rubrique cid pour ca ;)

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Le Cid menoth commence :

Exemplar CID Initial Rules

04-30-2018, 09:34 AM

Hello everyone and welcome to the Exemplar Interdiction CID! Below you will find the rules for the new models coming as well as the changes for legacy models. Please note the "Things to test" section is still there. These are guidelines for some questions we may ask you during the CID. They are not the only things that should or can be tested, they are simply there to start the conversation.

Please test the rules listed below:

High Exemplar Cyrenia: Cyrenia is a battle field commander of Idrian descent. Based on her rank of High Exemplar, she should excelle in battlefield command and inspiration of her troops. She should be focused on defensive tactical game play. Her feat, Vigilance of the Faithful should allow the army to react to oncoming attacks and is themed around both tactical acumen and divine intervention. Her Battle Plans should further reinforce these ideas. She is not a front line fighter herself but certainly should not be a weak combatant.

Things to test: Cyrenia brings a variety of defensive options. When combined are these options too much for opposing players to overcome? Is her utility overwhelming for the player? Does she support Exemplar models well?

Exemplar Warder: An exemplar body guard, the Warder is a solid defensive unit that is not afraid to step in front of oncoming fire or stand in front of his superiors and sacrifice himself for the cause. The Warder is a combatant and should not be passive on the field. The Warder should help some of the front-line casters in protectorate survive and remain relevant throughout the game with his combat abilities.

Things to test: Does the Warder provide too much of a defensive bonus, especially with casters like Reznik 1 or 2, Kreoss 2 or 3? Does the Warder contribute to the fight in the late game in a meaningful way. Do you find the Warder a valuable addition to your army?

Hand of Silence: Hand of Silence is a Reclaimer on a horse. Guiding spirits to Menoth is the primary function of the Hand of Silence. He should be a reasonable combat model while also fulfilling a powerful but niche support role. This is shown through Direct Spirits, Grave Resonace, Soul-Powered, and Strength of Death.

Things to test: Does the Hand of Silence create overly-powerful interactions with other models that collect souls. Is his melee damage too high? Too low? Do you find he is removed from the table too easily?

Exemplar Cinerator Officer: The Cinerator Officer brings a plethora of utility options to the Cinerators. Through his Shield Wall order, the Cinerator can become a very durable multi-would unit. Combined with the other defensive abiltiies of the protectorate arsenal this unit can become very difficult to dislodge from scenario zones. With Litany of Fire the unit picks up the ability to remove enemy upkeep spells. Take Down is useful ability that brings a remove from play option to the Exemplar forces.

Things to test: The Cinerator Officer offers a lot of new options to the unit. Are these options useful? Do you see them covering weaknesses of the unit or army?

Shrine of the Lawgiver: The Shrine brings a soul mechanic to Exemplar Interdiction. As the faithful are struck down, more are inspired to join the cause. Returning models to play is an important aspect of the Shrine of the Lawgiver. Path of Urcaen brings additional utility and a unique effect to the army. Please note the Forward Deployment rule - The Trencher Blockhouse will be updated to reflect this change.

Things to test: Can the Shrine contribute to the fight in a meaningful fashion? Does the Shrine collect a reasonable amount of souls? Is how the Shrine returns models to play too strong?

Legacy Models:

Grand Exemplar Kreoss: We have bumped Grand Exemplar Kreoss up to MAT and CMD for the start of this CID. We would like to hear feedback and battle reports about his current shortcomings before we continue to work on this Warcaster.

MAT 8.

CMD 10.

Harbinger of Menoth: We feel that the Harbinger's feat could use a little bump. Upping her CMD to 12 not only increases her feat area of effect but also makes Martyrdom and Awe a little more potent on the table. We also feel that she was lacking a little bit in the Warjack Points catagory. These two bumps should hopefully see her in more lists.

Warjack Points 28.

CMD 12.

Devout: This is the change from the Journeyman CID.

Change the text of Spell Barrier to the following:

Spell Barrier - While this model is B2B with its battlegroup controller, its battlegroup controller cannot be targeted by enemy spells.

Fire of Salvation: Increasing Fire of Salvation's MAT should make it feel a little more special while also increasing consistency on the table.

MAT 8.

Indictor: We feel the Indictor is close to where it wants to be. A slight point drop and a larger area of effect should help this model fulfill its intended role.

Cost 14.

Change the text of Consecration to the following:

Consecration - While within 8˝ of this model, enemy models cannot cast, channel, or upkeep spells.

Judicator: The Judicator has received quite aggressive changes. SP 10, a slight points drop, and a rather sizable increase in power of the Reliquary rule should see this model back in lists and on the table.

Cost 35.

Increase the RNG of Flamethrowers to SP 10.

Change the text of Reliquary to:

Reliquary - This model gains an additional die on attack and damage rolls. Discard the lowest die of each roll. While its S system is disabled, this model loses the benefits of Reliquary.

Purifier: The Purifier is currently out shined by the Dervish. We hope by adding a little utility to this model we can make it a home. Ashen Veil seemed the perfect spot to do this.

Gain Ashen Veil:

Ashen Veil - This model has concealment. Living enemy models without Immunity: Fire XICONX suffer –2 to attack rolls while within 2˝ of this model.

Exemplar Bastions: Bastions were not performing at the level we intended. Making them a significantly cheaper option will allow them to see time on the table.

Cost 8/13.

CMD 8.

Exemplar Cinerators: Cinerators are picking up a unit attachment during this CID. We want to see how that interacts with them before we make any further changes than a slight point decrease.

Cost 9/15.

CMD 8.

Exemplar Errants & Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard: Adding pathfinder to the unit allows us to modify Elias Gade's role in the army. Removing Assault, a rule which was a little awkward on Exemplar Errants, and returning Quick Work from the previous edition should up the power level of this unit rather substantially.

Gain Pathfinder XICONX.

Change the second line of Purity to the following:

Enemy upkeep spells and animi on this unit immediately expire.

Cut Tactics: Assault XICONX.

Gain Tactics: Quick Work:

Tactics: Quick Work - Models in this unit gain Quick Work. (When a model with Quick Work destroys one or more enemy models with a melee attack during its Combat Action, immediately after the attack is resolved the model with Quick Work can make one basic ranged attack.)

Exemplar Bastion Seneschal: The Seneschal brings powerful effects for its unit, but we would like to see a little more variety out of it. A slight point drop and a rather aggressive new Warjack Drive will hopefully excite players into considering this model.

Cost 5.

Cut Drive: Blessings of Iron.

Add Drive: Rhythm of Steel:

Drive: Rhythm of Steel - While in this model’s command range, a warjack under its control gains Flank [Bastion]. (When a model with Flank [Bastion] makes a melee attack against an enemy model in the melee range of a friendly Bastion model, the model with Flank gains +2 to attack rolls and gains an additional damage die.)

Exemplar Errant Seneschal: This model has been standardized with the unit it is themed with.

Cut Assault XICONX.

Gain Pathfinder XICONX.

Gain Quick Work:

Quick Work - When this model destroys one or more enemy models with a melee attack during its Combat Action, immediately after that attack is resolved this model can make one basic ranged attack.

Exemplar Warder Elias Gade: Elias has seen a major support upgrade. On early turns before he is committing to battle he can now Desperate Pace small or medium based exemplar to help them move around the field. He has also been standardized with other errants.

Cut Assault XICONX.

Add Desperate Pace [small- or medium-based Exemplar]:

Desperate Pace [small- or medium-based Exemplar] (★Action) - RNG CMD. Target friendly small- or medium-based Exemplar unit. If the unit is in range, small- or medium-based Exemplar models in the unit gain +2˝ movement during their Normal Movement this turn.

Cut Leadership [Exemplar Errants].

Gain Quick Work:

Quick Work - When this model destroys one or more enemy models with a melee attack during its Combat Action, immediately after that attack is resolved this model can make one basic ranged attack.


High Exemplar Gravus: To help incentivize Gravus, we have lowered his cost to 8 and bumped his CMD up to 10.

CMD 10.

Cost 8.

Knights Exemplar Seneschal: This model is already doing quite well, but we felt a little bump in CMD will keep him in line with other similar models.

CMD 10.


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Protectorat de Menoth / Re : Severius 0
« le: 05 avril 2018 à 12:41:01 »
Je pense pas ils l'ont ajouté hier le poisson d'avril etait deja passé apres il coute 6 pts mais surement il sera gratuit dans certain theme force apres on crache pas dessus menoth a besoin d'un coup de pousse urgent la

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Discussions sur le jeu et les rumeurs / Re : Baisse de prix
« le: 05 avril 2018 à 00:24:27 »
Par contre il est cité quelque part des mesures pour le réapprovisionnement des magasins en figurines pske j'ai l'impression que les commandes sont bloquées depuis un moment :/

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Protectorat de Menoth / Severius 0
« le: 04 avril 2018 à 23:43:49 »
Juste pour reveiller un peu menoth et dire qu'un certain severius 0 journeyman solo viens d'etre ajouter en CID pour les 15 ans de warmachines

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Minions / Re : Dracodile
« le: 20 novembre 2017 à 12:06:46 »
Nice merci :)

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Minions / Re : Dracodile
« le: 20 novembre 2017 à 11:22:35 »
La figurine n'est plus disponible... j'ai demandé au service client apparament le stock est parti super vite et pas de reassort de prevu desuite x')

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Minions / Re : Dracodile
« le: 20 novembre 2017 à 07:30:45 »
Propre je vais serieusement envisager l'option je crois :)
 il fait combien en hauteur par rapport a des vrais fig genre infanterie et jack?

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Achats & Petites Annonces / Re : [Vente] "Quelques" Menoths
« le: 05 novembre 2017 à 10:33:03 »
Vraiment triste de te voir quitter menoth mais en meme temps je te comprend j'espere que tu trouveras plus de plaisir chez les mercenaires :) en tout cas je prendrais plaisir a jouer avec tes figurines lorsque tu passeras ton armée en lot contacte moi je suis interressé par :
Dervish bleu 11
Dervish noir 11
Idictor bleu 24
Knight exemplar bleu 24
Kinght exemplar officier bleu 11
Paladins of the order 8
Deliverer Sunburst Crew 13
Amon 8
Total 110

Bonne continuation :)

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Protectorat de Menoth / Re : [Meta] Etat des lieux Octobre
« le: 19 octobre 2017 à 11:41:15 »
A mon avis pour ramener les bastions et les cinerators sur le devant de la scene il faudrait qu'il leur redonne 8 pv au moins je pense, peut etre grace au theme force exemplar a la maniere du theme force croco qui donne 8 pv au pose, car en soi ce theme force devrait etre orienté troupe mais le seul avantage c'est un advance de 2"

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Minions / Re : Amour, gloire et minions
« le: 17 octobre 2017 à 12:10:32 »
Apparament si j'ai bien lu, les modifications des figurines deja existante devrait arrivé dans 4-6 semaines donc avant les sorties des nouvelles sortie de janvier

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Minions / Re : Amour, gloire et minions
« le: 17 octobre 2017 à 01:33:47 »
Une bien belle partie qui nous aura fait transpirer jusqu'a la fin en tout cas :) 

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Protectorat de Menoth / Re : Exemplar warder Elias Gade.... gné?
« le: 12 octobre 2017 à 10:47:11 »
Les crocos sont en CID jusqu'a demain, vous pensez qu'il y ai une chance que menoth soit les suivant ? ^^'

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Protectorat de Menoth / Re : Exemplar warder Elias Gade.... gné?
« le: 11 octobre 2017 à 23:27:21 »
Mat 7 rat 7 deux arbaletes pow 10 deux armes pow 9 weapon master et apres il a prey pour lui true sight et donne pathinder voila voila :)
@TheLazyHase il a quand meme assaut du cout ca fait 4 attaque sur une charge pas deconnant dans certaine liste qui booste le mouvement ca peut faire un bon trou surtout que derriere il peut sacrifier des errants a 5" de lui pour rester en vie on a vu pire en solo 5 point

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Minions / Re : Ce sera pour Janvier !
« le: 11 octobre 2017 à 21:01:59 »
Je me demandais aussi je pensais il y aurait le bone shakers manquant en DLC 6 mois plus tard haha

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Protectorat de Menoth / Re : Exemplar warder Elias Gade.... gné?
« le: 11 octobre 2017 à 20:50:39 »
Ouais franchement il est sympa ce solo il va peut etre faire resortir les errants du placard haha :)

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